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Healthcare Debate: U.S. vs. Britain

 
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Henry Meers



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:59 am    Post subject: Healthcare Debate: U.S. vs. Britain Reply with quote

Here is a sign of government or "elite" arrogance from a New York Times article:

"David Furness, head of strategic development at the Social Market Foundation, a study group, said that under the plan, every general practitioner in London would, in effect, be responsible for a $3.4 million budget.

“'It’s like getting your waiter to manage a restaurant,' Mr. Furness said. 'The government is saying that G.P.’s know what the patient wants, just the way a waiter knows what you want to eat. But a waiter isn’t necessarily any good at ordering stock, managing the premises, talking to the chef — why would they be? They’re waiters.'” http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/25/world/europe/25britain.html?_r=2&hp

The new plans to take money away from the bureaucracy and give it to the GP's to manage, while Obama and the boys want to bring more control to Washington. This is not as good as private insurance or choice, but it is a huge step in the right direction.

It's sadly not hard to understand: I just watched Geithner on ABC TV. Those guys live in Neverneverland. They'll never grow up. Is it possible the British learned their lesson and Obama missed the Memo?
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MMM



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a truth universally acknowledged that a government bureaucracy can manage a restaurant better than an independent businessman.
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ebreen



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MMM, Having dined at La Bernadine and the Senate Dining Hall, I would really like to see you support that assertion with some evidence and reasoning...among other things I want to see how you distinguish school lunch programs.
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MMM



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, in fairness,
I love the Senate Bean Soup recipe, and as far as school lunches go, I can say from personal experience, (and I know this is only a testimonial), but hunger is the best sauce.
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ebreen



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, you are just a crap snipper, you have no support or reasoning...?
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MMM



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You misunderstand. I was being sarcastic.
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MMM



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, maybe ironic is a better description
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ebreen



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, you appear (at least to me) to be a crap sniper, but you really are just a wise guy. My apologies, I can learn to appreciate wise guys...but how about showing us some substance.
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Judith



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recognized it as sarcasm. and I'm waiting for the 'pony' that's got to be in there somewhere.......

Want a carrot?
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ebreen



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MMM, what is the difference between sarcasm and irony? I believe that Irony, which is usually misused, actually means saying one thing when you mean something else. How is this different from sarcasm?
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MMM



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think irony is gentler. Sarcasm is stronger, meaner.

On my original message I was making an ironic joke. I was referring to the first line of "Pride and Prejudice". I thought everybody knew this line, but perhaps the book is more of a girl's book.
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Robert P. Churchill



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MMM,

Either say something that has to do with economics or prepare to be terminated. You know what happens when you get into this sort of meta-conversation...
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